Wanna Bet? Video Gaming Could Be in Darien’s Future
Local bar and grill owner hopes city council will overturn ban to help him compete with neighboring businesses that offer video gaming to their customers.
In recent years, a weak economy has dealt a pretty lousy hand to businesses owners across the country, who often struggle to attract customers amid fierce competition.
But local businessman Robert Taft is hoping the Darien City Council will improve his chances by reversing its 2009 decision to ban video gaming in the city.
Taft, the owner of Q Bar and Grill at 8109 S. Cass Ave. in Darien, came before the city council Feb. 4 to ask aldermen to review Darien’s ordinance prohibiting video gaming. He thinks the addition of video poker machines to his bar and grill -- which currently features pool and Foosball tables, dartboards, bean bags and video arcade games -- will help him to better compete with area establishments in municipalities where video gaming is allowed.
Nearby towns such as Oakbrook Terrace and most recently, Westmont, have already given a green light to video gaming. And in Lemont, which approved the machines in July, establishments that feature video poker machines have seen quite a return on their gamble.
Reports from the Illinois Gaming Board (IGB) indicate that in December 2013, of the four Lemont establishments housing video gaming machines, two bars -- Bottles and Stonehouse Pub -- raked in the most, with net terminal incomes of $348,509 and $287,429, respectively.
After game winners, the establishments, gaming companies and the State of Illinois each collected their shares of the proceeds, poker machines from the two bars brought in $1,002 and $845, respectively, for the municipality in December. Lemont’s share from all video poker machines within the village limits in December was $2,542.
The State of Illinois receives 30 percent of the net income from each terminal – from which the municipality where the terminals are operated receives 5 percent (or 1.5 percent of the net terminal income). The remainder is divided between the terminal operator and business location, with 0.7275 percent paid to the company that maintains the communication system allowing the IBG to monitor the video games.
A brief history of video gaming in Illinois
The State of Illinois passed the Video Gaming Act (230 ILCS 40) in 2009, allowing licensees (including establishments where liquor is served, as well as fraternal and veterans organizations and truck stops) to house up to five video gaming terminals each. At that time, local governments could prohibit video gaming within their boundaries - and the Darien City Council approved an ordinance banning video gaming Dec. 21, 2009.
On Oct. 9, 2012, when video gaming “went live,” video gaming terminals became operational in 278 establishments across Illinois. The IGB currently lists more than 1,100 video gaming licensees - and as of Feb. 11, 2013, the state board was processing video gaming license applications from more than 2,500 entities.
Darien City Council to review video gaming ordinance Tuesday
Assistant City Administrator Scott Coren said at the direction of the city council, members of Darien’s Administrative/Finance Committee on Feb. 11 discussed the city’s policy regarding video gaming with the owner of Q Bar and Grill, as well as with a local resident who works for a gaming company.
“We looked at which of our neighbors have approved [video gaming],” Coren said. “We are very pro-business; the city council will look at the ordinance at its next meeting Tuesday night.”
Coren said establishments who want video gaming machines first need to obtain a license from the IGB, which requires an extensive application process that could take up to a year.
The Darien City Council will meet at 7 p.m. Tuesday, Feb. 19, at City Hall, 1702 Plainfield Road. To view the meeting agenda, click here.
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Do you think Darien should approve video gaming? Tell us in the Comments!
Mike Minardi
8:47 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
Certainly hope Darien remains a "Nice place to live" vs becoming a "Nice place to gamble".
Adam West
9:43 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
I don't see anything wrong with it. If it keeps doors open and provides revenue then let it be. It's not like they are opening casinos.
antigambler
12:05 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
The industry calls them "casinos".
JGMB
9:50 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
It's ironic that this story surfaced the same day as one about a former San Diego mayor who wasted a billion dollars (of money earmarked for charity, by the way) on video gaming. Gambling is such an addictive and destructive force -- I do NOT want to see Darien go down this path.
Adam West
9:59 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
I think a trial phase could be implemented. Try it out for a year, and if the results are negative, then repeal the ordinance.
antigambler
12:08 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
If you want a trial phase, let other towns try them. Then, decide, based on their results. Once one-armed bandits arrive, you'll have to get out the heavy ammunition to get rid of them. They become a "right" of the business. Only NEW gambling locations could be prohibited in the future, not existing ones.
Adam West
8:31 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Darien is home rule. They have the right to govern themselves, if they want to pass an ordinance then repeal it they can do so. I sincerely doubt you will have waves of people protesting the removal of the games since they can just go to Westmont and Lemont.
antigambler
12:28 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Even home-rule communities cannot take away a license issued by the State of Illinois. They are limited to taking away liquor licenses of businesses with video gambling, which would make them ineligible to host video gambling. Are you betting that Darien would do that if "the results were negative"? If I were a gambler, I would bet against you.
Adam West
10:52 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
They can still repeal the ordinance. If the business fails to comply then the city can take away the liquor license which would in turn shut the business down. The city holds the upper hand in this.
antigambler
12:06 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
I hate to burst your bubble. But, that is a hand that would never be played. Taking away businesses' liquor licenses to get rid of gambling machines would knock two legs from that business' two- or three-legged stools of income. Do you think Darien would actually do that to a local business? I don't. It would never happen!
Adam West
4:28 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
They would be doing that be by keeping video gambling out of Darien. At the last city counsel meeting the owner of Q Bar advised that he will be out of business in 6 to 8 months, he is asking the city to allow video gaming which would allow him to stay in business. I'm trying to keep an open mind about this, even though I have doubts about video gambling. I would hate to see any business close, especially if this would help them stay open and keep people employed.
antigambler
4:56 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
I'm talking about trying to take the candy away from the baby, once it's already in his hands. He is going to cry like a baby. It's a lot easier to just not give him the candy in the first place. Several village attorneys told me that once the machines are in a business, they become a "right" of the business. Those businesses would be "grandfathered in" if the local ordinance was changed later. I believe that is what would happen.
JGMB
2:06 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Does anyone know if the public will have a chance to speak for or against this at the upcoming Council meeting?
antigambler
2:48 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
The agenda is available at the end of the story. Just click it. Public comment is allowed.
Barry Allen
10:54 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Darien doesn't currently allow video gaming. It is important to note that there is no current proposal to allow gambling. The only reason it is on the agenda is because Westmont changed their mind and voted to allow video gaming. And a local business owner thought that might get his foot in the door.
If such a proposal is ever made in Darien it will have to go through committee which will make a recommendation to council (the committee hasn't done that yet). Council will have to put it on the agenda as an action item (that has not been done in this agenda) and the council will have to vote. An appropriate response at this time might be to email your alderman and let her/him know how you feel. It you have an alderman worth his/her position your views should get the play they need.
This Patch article fails to clearly indicate that while they will "look at the ordinance" it is just that. Given the agenda there is absolutely nothing that can happen in the near future.
patsy
7:50 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
hopefully this will not cause other issues of concern
Brian Cassin
10:01 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Note how little of the net income from the machines comes back to the municipality. The story does not comment on the increases sales tax revenue that the Lemont businesses expect to generate from having the machines at their sites. If the increased sales tax revenue isn't significant, the revenue from the net proceeds from the machines is not enough to offset the negative impact on the social fabric of our community. Remember : gambling always benefits the state, the business establishment, and the terminal operator. The local municipality gets a very small percentage of the take, but all the cost and headaches from the negative aspects of gambling.
J.D
5:39 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
just give the man his slot machines , and move on ,if you dont have the desire to play them ..then dont ..dont think al capone will be running this town anytime soon...J.D
Tom Koz
8:37 am on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
Not advocating, just saying .... IF it's all about the $$$, what would bring in more business to a bar (and tax dollars to the community) "gaming" machines or "topless" waitresses??? OR how about massages with "happy" endings?? Why should one be allowed and not the other?? Personally, I think neither should be here.
jim davis
4:46 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
bring back the fashion shows that will be next