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Argonne Teaches Kids about Wind Power, So Can You

Argonne has installed a 100-foot tall, 10 kW wind turbine. It’s used by Argonne scientists and engineers to study the interaction of wind energy.

By Devin Hodge, Sustainability Program Manager, Argonne National Laboratory

Argonne has installed a 100-foot tall, 10 kW wind turbine. It’s used by Argonne scientists and engineers to study the interaction of wind energy, electric vehicle charging and grid technology and it’s also estimated to save more than 10 metric tons of greenhouse gas emissions annually.

At 112 feet tall, Argonne’s wind turbine is considered small to medium height. To put this in perspective, the monster turbines we can see off the highway are about 300 feet tall.

Wind turbines capture the kinetic energy of the wind and their rotary motion turns a magnetic alternator, or gears in a gearbox, that convert the kinetic energy to direct current electric energy. Turbines produce power most efficiently when wind speeds are at optimum levels. That’s why wind farms are located in specific areas, so they can harness wind energy efficiently and cost-effectively.

When I’m teaching kids about optimum wind speeds and variability, and how it is necessary for efficient and cost-effective energy generation, I like to use an app on my smart tablet that kids can interact with directly. Kids are able to spin virtual wind turbine blades on the smart tablet with the touch of a finger, and as they do this, they can see what the mile-per-hour wind speed is, where the speed sits on the scale of optimum wind speed, and how much power is being generated in kilowatt hours. Too much or too little wind, and the turbine can’t produce power efficiently, but if the wind spins the turbine just right…

Parents may find apps like the one I use to be a useful tool when teaching their children about wind power at home. When conducting tours with older students, it’s easy to demonstrate the variability of wind energy while standing under our wind turbine on a windy day. Interesting discussions about wind energy, grid stability and the need for energy storage take place as a result of this sensory observation.

To learn more about Argonne’s Sustainable energy research and the laboratory’s on-site sustainability efforts, visit Argonne’s GreenLab Initiative website at blogs.anl.gov/greenlab.

Bob March 8, 2013 at 05:16 am
Of course your deeply flawed "assumptions" have no resemblance to reality, Hugger.If what you said was true, AND THE WHOLE truth, YOU and Susan could build wind farms without government subsidies and forced purchase.
When you get some facts from authoritative sources instead of fabricated "assumptions", drop on by and we'll debate the issue! T. Boone Pickens once tried to do that, but he quickly found out that inaccurate numbers like yours were just a sad fiction. HOW about providing the source of your misinformation, Hugger?
Bob March 8, 2013 at 05:20 am
If you actually bothered to read your link, you'd find that NOWHERE does it claim there's still molten fuel near the reactor. They're decribing the intial event. Come back when you learn to read, and can use something other than that goofy ENENEWS garbage!
Susan Milewski March 8, 2013 at 10:30 am
Hot Off The Press:
From todays Chicago Sun Times business section, which really should be front page news in terms of it's significence: New Evenston Walgreens Store To Become Nations First Net Zero Retailer: http://www.suntimes.com/business/18691034-420/evanston-walgreens-store-will-be-countrys-first-net-zero-retailer.html Store will meet it's own energy needs. Amazing and inspiring.
Susan Milewski March 8, 2013 at 10:41 am
@ Bob,
When you dislike news, you diss the news source. E News, like Drudge, only copies it's news from other news sources, including the news releases from TEPCO & the Japanese Government, and, yes, I read the story and it states, as you well know, that the molten fuel is UNDER the containment, not inside where it belongs. Sorry if the facts fail to prop up the nuclear cartels official spin but it is what it is nonetheless http://enenews.com/china-syndrome-japan-times-on-melt-through-molten-lava-melted-bottom-of-containment-vessel-says-nuclear-engineer-given-access-by-top-official-huge-amounts-of-fission-materials-released Some scarey and very dangerous stuff going on in Fuk wouldn't you agree ?
Tree Hugger March 8, 2013 at 05:05 pm
My assumption are based on market quotes that are three to four months old.
eia.gov/forecasts/aeo/er/electricity_generation.cfm supports my assumptions for a CCGT The EIA NCF for wind is low for the new wind turbine technology. My assumptions are based on the new GE 1.7MW 100m in Texas, Kansas, Nebraska and North Dakota. The entire energy industry is subsidized mostly through the tax code and in some cases loan guarantees. The tax code subsidies include but not limited to MLP structures (which explicitly exclude renewables), Production Tax Credits (which were initially used to encourage shale gas) and accelerated depreciation. I don’t believe it is possible to build a new nuclear plant without a loan guarantee (i.e. the $8.3 loan guarantee to South Company to build their NUC) T. Boone Pickens' plan had several fatal flaws; one of which was opening up ERCOT to federal regulation. And he took a big financial hit when gas pricing dropped. Finally, the utilities have a duty to their shareholders to protect and expand their rate based. Low cost energy running through a fuel filling does not expand the rate base. The regulatory body is responsible for protecting the rate payers in the franchise. Sometime this means "forcing" the utilities to buy cheaper power (i.e QFs w/a PURPA Put)
BUTCH March 8, 2013 at 05:27 pm
Molten fuel Under the containment casks will be easily curtailed when the Glaciers are in a 100% retreat thanks to Testicle cancer Bob's flawed designs, it will be much sooner than later the good news is the CAYMAN ISLANDS will also be under water the bad is along with Miami, Staten Island and Boston, Iceland and a lot of Ireland and the UK
Rick Nagel (Editor) March 8, 2013 at 06:56 pm
I deleted a comment by L W Sagan because it contained a pseudo obscenity. Readers: Please flag comments if you see any of the "seven words you can't say on TV."
L W Sagan March 8, 2013 at 07:04 pm
Dang - will try to recreate in a blander form.
L W Sagan March 8, 2013 at 07:19 pm
Susan inquires "Some scarey and very dangerous stuff going on...? " YES. But regarding Molten vs Melted. - Bob is kinda correct, dear. About a year ago it may have been molten when it burned through the containment vessel, however it is no longer 'molten', although it is accurate to refer to it as melted. While it's a semantic difference, it is a BIG thing when attempting to dramatize by creating a certain mental image. Here's a helpful link: http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/32706/melted-vs-molten
Molten specifically refers to liquids which are extremely hot, and whose usual form is as a solid. It is used as an adjective. By contrast, something may be melted (whether used as a transitive verb, or an adjective), but need not be hot, and it need not be liquid (something that has begun to lose solidity can be considered melted), nor does it even need to still be subject to the melting process (i.e. it may have fully resolidified). From these definition you can conclude that melting describes the process from the moment the object starts changing its shape (due to the fact that it is not solid anymore); melted is used for object that changed its shape due to melting, even though it might not be melted (in stricter sense) anymore and it completely re-solidified; and molten is typically used with glass, lava, rock, all of which all require to be very hot to be melted, so high temperature is usually implied (though strictly speaking it is not necessary)
L W Sagan March 8, 2013 at 07:33 pm
Susan - HERE's a good one !!! http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/fukushima-plant-set-to-collapse-from-another-quake-or-tsunami/story-e6frg6so-1226593520079
L W Sagan March 8, 2013 at 08:27 pm
WalGREEN's - (should I copyright that?) -is a wonderful thing. - a step in a good direction ...however (from the article) please note : "Net zero signifies that the project will produce more energy than it uses, feeding energy back into the power grid. The concept does not mean the company won't have to buy power from the local utility, said Menno Enters, the company's director of energy and sustainability. Particularly at night, when there is no sun the company will rely on the local utility to supply electricity, he said. The cost of the store will be more expensive. It will also be different. Visitors to the store will see the wind turbines outside, and notice an electrical vehicle charger station."
Once in the store, they might see lights dimmer than usual, with daylight supplementing artificial light."
Susan Milewski March 8, 2013 at 11:53 pm
@ LW Sagan:
Either way this cannot be good. What are your thoughts on this news article? http://enenews.com/japan-times-melted-fuel-burned-holes-in-fukushima-reactors-then-explosions-cracked-containment-vessels
L W Sagan March 9, 2013 at 03:14 am
So, Susan so we can all stop beating one particular dead horse.... do you acknowledge there is a difference between molten fuel and melted fuel?
Susan Milewski March 9, 2013 at 01:47 pm
L W Sagan posted <snip>
So, Susan so we can all stop beating one particular dead horse... ~~~~ " dead horse " ? Is that how you see this ONGOING nuclear meltdown in Japan ? It is exactly this cavalier attitude and approach toward safety which has brought about 2 major catastrophic enviormental disasters within the last few years: Fukuchima Diachi nuclear meltdown and The BP Gulf Of Mexico oil volcano. Cost cutting to improve profits and outright forgery of documents required to ensure safety in drilling are among the charges being brought against BP. Are you aware that there is a trial going on with BP the defendent ? Some very interesting testimony being given. You posted : <snipped> Susan inquires "Some scarey and very dangerous stuff going on...? " YES. But <end snip> "YES. But " was your response as you went on to haggle over details and meanings of words such as " melted v molten " Lets quibble over words and not where the melted/molten MISSING fuel may be. Bob seems to know where the missing fuel is. Lets ask him.
BUTCH March 9, 2013 at 03:26 pm
LW yer back I had to go to a funeral in Venezuela with Rev Wright. Loved yer diity.
Dead Horses, brain dead people,two headed fish and radioactive salmon , retreating Glaciers and qtr size mosquitos in the Fla evergreens, sinkholes in Fla and La all related to vampire or non regulated Capitalism, these downwinders are not going to be affected or bothered by any of this here in Illinois. The hysteria on design flaws is misplaced especially the casks buried at Red Gate Woods Gate, nuclear reactors in Yakima and San Onofre, Savanaah river and Fukishima which was the result of building on a fault line nothing to do with testicle Bob's 1950 designs or something we would never do in Murka according to Testicle cancer Bob we are not Commies and would do what they did in Chernobyl maybe Red Army Capitalist BAINLAND but not in Murka
L W Sagan March 9, 2013 at 05:54 pm
Hey, Grabinski, love your writing style.
L W Sagan March 9, 2013 at 06:03 pm
Susan - yes. let's quibble over words. please.
I have to say I'm definitely with Bob on one aspect here - Please work on comprehension in context. The 'dead horse' I'm alluding to was regarding your ERRONEOUS use of the word MOLTEN versus MELTED. God forbid you should just acknowledge your error and we can move on to the reactor issues. No, instead, you start your retort with a spin attempting to infer that I was describing the reactor meltdown itself as a dead horse. The only way I was displaying a "cavalier attitude and approach " was towards your consistently misspeaking yourself with "Molten" ..... sheesh...and you wonder why folks don't want to play nice with you. Catch ya later !
BUTCH March 9, 2013 at 08:42 pm
since we are talking about dead horses it is not fair that we do not include Whale size Blue fin Tuna, I mean is that Whale size tuna a mutated result of Fuki ? it sold for $50,000 and of course now we also know why! Counterfeit Tuna is one of the mislabeled or sea food industry's biggest secrets they substite snake mackeral for Tuna,which was banned here until Blue Dog Clintoon's administration approved it under pressure from Newt and Phil Gramm, despite causing side effects like anal oil leakage! PONDER that Patch censors!
Now the sea food industry is regaining their lost revenue after the cebs lobsters and all the shell and most fish that survived are mutated thanks to BP and a special thanks to HELLIBURTON (where did we hear that before? ) It is doing what Vampire Capitalism in China does best mislabel the poisons for the grocery stores and restaurants, this is where the downwinders love their shushi, Tuna and Wash state Salmon, In Europe where the banksters can be more secretive they put horse and donkey MEAT in the hamburgers at Burger king, AND NOW WE KNOW THE REST OF THE DEAD HORSES STORY! All you proud blue blooded Capitalists must have a different source for yer fish and burgers unless of course u are real Cayman islanders.
BUTCH March 10, 2013 at 11:44 pm
TO TESTICLE CANCER BOB and his sidekick LW THE MESSAGE on his faulty designs of reactors and or casks is exactly the same,"_good luck, your on your own" it never happened no earthquake, tsunami, leaky reactors, creepy moltan or melted spent fuel from Testicle's faulty designed dry casks (wait till we get leaky from wet storage sites in reactors) Red gate woods was remediated by certified private comapny's( who wore bandanas) the leaky wells are capped, what is important is the message, the disinformation the subsidy to keep doing the same thing the same way, dead horses or brain dead down winders minds be damned, think positive the 3 headed fish and other mutates is a twofer.
BUTCH March 11, 2013 at 12:37 am
@BOB-LW --What is the latest info on the explosions at the Iranian reactor? Can ROBME, CHENEY and BOB have a part on by design or? is there any nuke event that the nuclearcrats would ever comment on? other than a total collapse of BOB'S FLAWED containment casks where the SPENT FUEL is kept.
iT IS a given the non functioning thyroid , immune systems disfunction and removal of now useless glands is now a part of human remediation so called for a large segment of the Japanese population in the immediate and future just anothe atrocity among the thousands going on in the race to oblivion in Japan and whereever downwinders live!
BUTCH March 14, 2013 at 02:01 pm
where are the shameless defenders of Armageddon? Where are the downwinder Cowards INC of the Right Wing tax avoiing looters?
L W Sagan March 14, 2013 at 03:32 pm
Butch....You seem so lonely here- 4 BUTCH posts in a row....with no takers.....looks like no one wants to play with you here....
but LOOK, Patch was nice enough to get a new sandbox for you to play in ! ENJOY! http://geneva.patch.com/articles/earth-week-approaching-some-facts-about-energy-in-the-u-s
BUTCH March 14, 2013 at 04:30 pm
I just got back from the Caymans the Ugland Townhouse is lowering the rent because of rising sea levels something to do with the god particle and the carnival poop ship cruises are going 99% empty! Where;s Bob?
Susan Milewski March 14, 2013 at 07:35 pm
http://enenews.com/2-years-ago-today-nytimes-reports-u-s-would-be-harmed-by-full-meltdown-at-fukushima-months-later-its-revelaed-there-were-three-full-meltdowns
Some rather ominous news from the New York Times
Susan Milewski March 14, 2013 at 07:42 pm
http://enenews.com/hidden-noaa-animation-shows-ocean-all-along-u-s-west-coast-wtih-fukushima-cesium-by-april-2011-video
Any comments Bob-Sagan or will you deflect from this by claiming the news source is " bias "
BUTCH March 15, 2013 at 03:48 am
They are at a TPARTY RALLY giving out Kool Aid and Sushi from Fuji to the local DOWNWINDERS! Cowards like them ARE SELDOM heard from, there are hundreds of readers who are never going to read and if they do anything that does not fit into the wisdom and bile of the hilbilly heroin addict Rush or the friends at Fox, the problem gets messier with Obama visiting Argonne to get the Nukes back on line despite the China syndrom of THREE reactors and the leaky two or three on each coast.
L W Sagan March 15, 2013 at 01:02 pm
I'm sorry, Susan...maybe I missed your response...do you acknowledge there is a difference between molten fuel and melted fuel?
BUTCH March 15, 2013 at 01:31 pm
my god LW you are suppose to give the Kool Aid out not drink It? You obviously do not read anything not authorized by the Caryle Group? I know yer right side brain is being affected like the rest of the downwinders!
L W Sagan March 15, 2013 at 01:41 pm
BUTCH, I'm worried about you - are you feeling ok? There is nothing oddly capitalized in your last post?
Steven Jack (Editor) March 15, 2013 at 02:53 pm
Folks, This thread lost the plot days ago. We're going to go ahead and close the comments down on this one. Thanks!

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